6 item list so far. I was trying for 10 but not all the commandments apply. Do you think that policewoman would be the person to take it to? Leadership around here aint exactly the clearest.
You could take it to her for input, but you'll want to put the whole thing on the network for everyone to weigh in on. No one's in charge of anything except in name so if you want to get anything done its got to be by consensus
I wouldn't leave it opened ended though or they'll talk it to death. Post it with a proposed time frame for implementation or something
Youre right though. I already did the talking part so I wont waste time with that again. I was thinking of handing it over to someone with more athority- I'm still a nobody so I dont expect people to wanna listen.
How about I run it by you? Since you got an investment.
Well they're decent bare bones in any case. Something more official will have to be written up re: point six, but there's probably not much point in that until a real form of leadership rears its head
If you like I can talk to Sofiya Karimov about this as well - I can forward a copy along and see what she thinks. Doesn't hurt to have as few pairs of eyes on this thing and she's a lawyer
[That last bit about Sonya being a lawyer is a bit of a joke - not because she isn't bang on with her job, but more that probably everyone in their dog knows as much after what happened last month.]
Will do. I'll forward her notes once I've got them
[And after he's sanitized them a bit, as he suspects Sonya's response is going to be as curse riddled as anything else she puts out and the last thing he wants to do is scare off a well-meaning attempt at...well whatever this is.]
Great. Thanks. I know they arent perfect but I put em down in the order I heard them so I wouldnt forget anything. Being nice is apparently pretty important to people - I had to change #1 from "dont be mean."
[ At least his exasperation over people's priorities comes across less strongly in text. ]
Cant blame them even if its not gonna work that way. Problem with codes like this is how you enforce em. #6 I mean everyones got different ideas of fair. Some people think eye for an eye is fair. Its not cruel or unusual as long as everyone knows what theyre getting.
More reason to get some kind of council in place. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for letting the lot of us run about doing whatever we goddamn please on a day to day basis, but without a system to hold people accountable when they cross a line we're all proper fucked
If that much hasn't already been made painfully obvious
Completely. You cant trust people unless its to save their own ass and even then sometimes you cant. You dont got a way to keep people in line and they wont stay there.
As far as I'm concerned, it seems like most people seem to think some kind of council is a good thing. It just needs a few more guidelines to focus it and then nominations and voting and all that painful bureaucratic rubbish
[Christ, he's boring himself.]
But making it an optional thing when its presented to the community isn't a smart move; it'll get talked over and die in the house (so to speak). Have to ask for nominations instead of making it a delicate 'hey there lads and ladies, we were thinking possibly we might do this or that - what do you think?'. Needs to be more 'We're doing this. If you want say in it, talk now or forever hold your peace'
No- right- a little leadership can be a good thing. Neccessary in this case. I learnt all about it in law school, you just have to DO it or else it wont happen. We dont even have the paperwork excuse.
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Yes. Yes and no. I have the thing written up. Just need to figure out where its going.
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[So that would be a no re: the hello.]
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6 item list so far. I was trying for 10 but not all the commandments apply. Do you think that policewoman would be the person to take it to? Leadership around here aint exactly the clearest.
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I wouldn't leave it opened ended though or they'll talk it to death. Post it with a proposed time frame for implementation or something
Those these are all just suggestions of course
[Diplomacy at its finest.]
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Youre right though. I already did the talking part so I wont waste time with that again. I was thinking of handing it over to someone with more athority- I'm still a nobody so I dont expect people to wanna listen.
How about I run it by you? Since you got an investment.
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But sure, I'll take a look
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Now I didnt make these up. Just put them together:
1. Be respectful
2. Don't be reckless/understand what youre doing
3. Work together
[ ... The next one he has written down is "no mutinies" maybe he should rewrite that. ]
4. No murder
5. Do unto others as you want done unto you
6. Fair justice for infractions- trials + nothing cruel/unusual
Maybe still needs some work.
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[That last bit about Sonya being a lawyer is a bit of a joke - not because she isn't bang on with her job, but more that probably everyone in their dog knows as much after what happened last month.]
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[And after he's sanitized them a bit, as he suspects Sonya's response is going to be as curse riddled as anything else she puts out and the last thing he wants to do is scare off a well-meaning attempt at...well whatever this is.]
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[ At least his exasperation over people's priorities comes across less strongly in text. ]
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[Too bad that's exactly what they need.]
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In example.
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If that much hasn't already been made painfully obvious
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[Christ, he's boring himself.]
But making it an optional thing when its presented to the community isn't a smart move; it'll get talked over and die in the house (so to speak). Have to ask for nominations instead of making it a delicate 'hey there lads and ladies, we were thinking possibly we might do this or that - what do you think?'. Needs to be more 'We're doing this. If you want say in it, talk now or forever hold your peace'
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Ill talk to some people.
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[As this is clearly his business, right?]
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Sure. Ill keep you updated once I know whats happening. If we're lucky maybe itll even be soon.